SkyView FAQ

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Will Dynon keep making the D6/D60 and D10A/D100 Series of products?

Dynon plans to offer (what we now call) the "Gen 1" products for the foreseeable future. Many current and potential customers that want just the simplified feature set of the D6/D60 and the much more complete feature set of the D10A/D100 products. The size and form factor of the D6, D10A, and EMS-D10 make them ideal replacement instruments in existing panels.

What new features will be included SkyView?

Synthetic terrain view and moving map capabilities are the most apparent new features in SkyView. A broad range of new features are planned for the SkyView system, including weather and traffic depiction, highway in the sky (HITS), and others. SkyView also incorporates an enhanced user interface with two value control knobs and joysticks, and a modular design making it easier and more affordable than ever to achieve full system redundancy.

Watch our website for updates on the SkyView system. We plan to post a complete list of features to be included in the initial release of SkyView and planned for subsequent software updates.

How much will SkyView cost?

SkyView pricing is now released, and as promised, Dynon priced! - link.

When will SkyView be available?

The SkyView System will be released in phases. The hardware and first version of software is planned for release in December 2009.

Other products seem to offer similar functionality, but are currently shipping. Why should I wait for Dynon?

Comparing screen shots of SkyView against the competition can show you a lot in many cases. Some of the competition's displays are severely limited by blocky, low-resolution, low frame-rate graphics that don't feature the color depth that the SkyView System will offer. Look at the fidelity and legibility of the moving map and synthetic vision in particular. Unlike most of the other products on the market, SkyView is built with modularity in mind. This will let you add features through module additions as your needs change and budget permits. This modular approach also means that in the unlikely event that you experience a problem with your product, you won't need to send the whole system back for repair. Only the affected module need be removed. And of course, you can expect the Dynon pricing, performance, and reliability. Dynon products are designed, assembled, and supported here in the US.

Is the 7" version of the SkyView display the same size as your current D100 series?

Not quite. The cutout needed for the SkyView 7" display is bigger than the current D100 series, so panel modification will be required for retrofits. Also, the SkyView displays will not use mounting trays like the D100 series currently does. You can download the SkyView mechanical drawings of each module at

What is the screen resolution of the SkyView displays

The 10" screen is 1024x600 pixels. The 7" screen is 800x480 pixels.

I am assuming that the engine monitor will be some sort of black box/breakout box that can hide behind the panel. Is this a fair assumption?

Yes. The AHRS and EMS modules will be separate from the screens. Think of this system as completely modular. By itself, the screen is a moving map (with the databases installed, and a GPS input (yes, we will have a GPS receiver/antenna available))

How far behind the initial release of the base screens and AHRS will the engine monitor be?

We plan to have the displays, ADAHRS, engine module shipping together.

Will all of these modules be using the DSAB as the communication network?

The SkyView Network is a next generation bus that is redundant. Because of its enhanced capabilities and faster data rate, current-generation products will not work on this bus, except for the AP servos. You will not be able to share the bus between current products and the new system.

Will the HS34 and the AP74 become obsolete for this new architecture or will they still be required/compliment the new system?

Because these new screens have knobs and two joysticks, the enhanced UI from the HS34 and AP74 will not be needed in this system.

Will the SkyView radio/transponder interface only work with the planned Dynon Comm and Nav radio products, or continue to work with radio's such as the SL-30 and the G430W?

It will work with some external radios (like the SL-30) in the beginning and then more products farther out. An ARINC converter will be available some time after the initial launch for units like the 430.

Is the plan to bring SkyView up to the ability to create a fully redundant system in regards to dual ADAHRS, dual networking, etc along with redundant serial port inputs to redundantly support external data sources in a dual screen setup if one screen dies?


Will the serial interfaces for externals be on the SkyView Displays or in a separate black box behind the panel?

Each screen has 5 serial ports.

What will drive the FD, HITS, ext? Are you going to be adding flight planning, synthetic approach capability and AP sequencing features similar to some of the competition or is all of this stuff going to be driven strictly by external data sources?

Over the long term, yes to all of those. The initial release of the product will likely ship without the moving map feature, however, all units will be upgradeable to the moving map at a later date. The long-term plan is to do full IFR flight planning (of course, you'll need a certified GPS source like a 430 to actually file /G and generate guidance that can be legally followed). External data sources will be secondary goals for us, not the primary source.

Will you have a GPS option to drive the map and all the other GPS driven features?

Yes, we will have a GPS receiver/antenna available.

Which of the current probes / accessories / brackets will be compatible with the next generation?

COMPATIBLE: All engine and temperature probes, AOA/Pitot probes, Autopilot servos, encoder converter module

NOT COMPATIBLE: EDC-D10A remote magnetometer, mounting brackets and trays, expansion modules (HS34, AP74 - see below for details)

Engine harness pinouts are expected to remain the same, but primary wiring harness pinouts will be different.

What if someone wants the new system plus a D10A? Or, you have a D180 and want to display engine info on the new screen?

The EFIS-D100, EMS-D120, FlightDEK-D180, EFIS-D10A, and EMS-D10 will all still be for sale for the foreseeable future. We are not canceling any of our current products. Over time, the D100, D120, and D180 will likely phase out in favor of the next generation system equivalents, which will have all of the same capabilities and much more.

All of our products will be supported for years - with repairs, technical support, and any bug fixes that are needed. There is no way that Dynon would ever stop supporting a past customer. We think one of the reasons we've been successful is that we've tried our best to support all of our customers, and that will continue to be the case. Call us with a question or a problem on an EFIS-D10, a product we haven't sold for over 4 years, and we'll still help with any question or problem you may have.

That being said, we are going to be winding down new feature development on the current series of products after the autopilot is released. After four years, we're reaching the limits of what we're able to do with the computing power in the current products. The major features that our customers have been asking for - such as synthetic vision, moving map, thin screens, etc - are not features that we can implement on our current hardware.

We've also learned a lot with the last generation of products, and to remain competitive we need to take all of that knowledge and translate it into the best avionics we can possibly build. To do this effectively and efficiently, we have we have to draw some lines between what we have now and what we'll be building next. For example, making DSAB work between the current and new products would be a huge software effort. If we put our limited resources there, development all of our products would slow down, and we're already a busy bunch over here.

We believe there's an easier way to cross the compatibility border, and that's the offer for trade-in credit on old units. If you are interested in the new system, then we'll take what you have and give you credit towards the next system. It's win-win: you get the new system, a new warranty, and we get to focus on our new product development.

We think that this trade-in program is a type of support that is uncommon in fast-moving technology (will Apple give you credit for your 2 year old iPod, or Dell for your old laptop?), but we want to do it anyway. We really do appreciate all of your business, and we want you to continue to grow with us. What's better than being sure that your past financial investment will continue to be an investment in the latest products from Dynon?

Will the Moving Map/GPS functionality be an add-on to existing Dynon systems with the addition of a next generation screen and the corresponding module?

Unfortunately, the D10A/D100 series does not have the computing horsepower required to be able to offer a map, nor the user interface that we think is required (the next generation has a joystick to pan around the map). As mentioned above, feature development on our current generation or products will wind down as we concentrate our resources on our next generation of avionics.

For those of us with existing engine monitors from Dynon, will the new generation products be backwards compatible with the connector and sensors?

The current EMS harness and sensors will plug right in.

How about an interface with satellite WX receivers?

We will have weather at some point, but we can't promise compatibility with a specific device yet.

Where will the pitot/static lines connect and how big is the ADAHRS?

The pitot/static lines will go to the ADAHRS box. It's not much bigger than the current EDC-D10A.

One of the things that attracted me to the existing Dynon product line is that Dynon has its own dedicated RTOS-like software stack. Some other vendors use commercial OSes like WinCE which makes me a bit uncomfortable. What is general architecture of the new software platform?

The new system will run a stabilized, minimal Linux kernel for the display. The remote boxes like the AHRS, EMS, servos, etc still run with no OS, and the screen is managed by a no-OS micro.

I have a D100 and a D180 (two ADAHRS) with an HS34 module and AP servos that I plan to keep. Not knowing the details of your design, will I be able to just add a SkyView screen and your GPS receiver to incorporate the moving map functions and complement my existing instruments, or will I have to also add a third ADAHRS with the NG hardware to incorporate the moving map functions?

As currently defined, the SkyView displays will require a next generation ADAHRS.

Will the next generation AHRS be less dependent on pitot aiding than the current versions?

Version 5.1 of the current generation of products adds GPS assist. When a Dynon Avionics EFIS is upgraded to version 5.1 and has a GPS connected to it, GPS ground speed can be automatically substituted for airspeed when the EFIS detects that the airspeed indication has failed (usually because of an iced, blocked, or otherwise disconnected pitot). When this happens, the EFIS annunciates that its attitude indication is in a “GPS Assist” mode. The EFIS display also shows GPS ground speed next to the failed airspeed indication to help the pilot maintain situational awareness. Most importantly, when in GPS Assist mode, the attitude provided by Dynon EFIS systems continues to be accurate.

This GPS assist feature will be included in the SkyView System.