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Will Dynon keep making the current generation of products?

It's likely that we'll continue offering the 4" products - the EFIS-D10A and the EMS-D10 - even after the next generation is the only offering in the 7" form factor.

Eventually, the current 7" line - the EFIS-D100, EMS-D120, and the FlightDEK-D180 - will be entirely replaced by the next generation. There may be some overlap as we roll our the phased release of the next generation system.

How much will it cost?

Pricing has yet to be determined, but it will be "Dynon-Priced". In other words, a system configured similarly to today's products may be a bit higher than today's products, but they'll have more capabilities. When you start assembling a complete panel that can do it all, the value in the next generation will become easily apparent - especially when you compare against other similar offerings.

When will the next generation be available?

The next generation system will be released in phases, starting in 2009.

Is the 7" version of the next generation the same size as your current D100 series?

Not quite. The cutout needed for the next generation 7" display is bigger than the current D100 series, so panel modification will be required for retrofits. Also, the next generation screens will not use mounting trays like the D100 series currently does. For PRELIMINARY planning purposes, if you add .5" on each side (1" total on width and height) when planning, that should be enough to accommodate whatever the final dimensions of the nextgen 7" end up being. DO NOT CUT HOLES to any preliminary dimensions!

What is the screen resolution of the next generation screens

The 10" screen is 1024x600 pixels. The 7" screen is 800x480 pixels.

Assuming that the engine monitor will be an add on to the base system and will be some sort of black box/breakout box that can hide behind the panel. Is this a fair assumption?

Yes. The AHRS and EMS boxes will be separate from the screens. Think of this system as completely modular. By itself, the screen is a moving map (with the databases installed, and a GPS input (yes, we will have a GPS receiver/antenna available))

How far behind the initial release of the base screens and AHRS will the engine monitor be?

The product doesn't have a name or price yet, so we can't answer a timeline question like that as of yet. We'd like to have the EMS on the day we first ship, but that may not happen.

Will all of these modules be using the DSAB as the communication network?

It is a redundant, enhanced version of DSAB. Most current products will not work on this bus. The AP servos will. You will not be able to share the bus between current products and the new system.

Will the HS34 and the AP74&76 become obsolete for this new architecture or will they still be required/compliment the new system?

Because these new screens have knobs and joysticks, the enhanced UI from the HS34 and AP74 will not be needed in this system. The AP76 is still up in the air, we'll need to work through the UI and decide if we need a dedicated panel like that for the advanced functions.

Will the radio/transponder interface only work with the planned Dynon products or continue to work with radio's such as the SL-30 and the G430W?

It will work with some external radios (like the SL-30) in the beginning and then our products farther out.

Is the plan to bring these things up to the ability to create a fully redundant system in regards to dual AHRS, dual networking, etc along with redundant serial port inputs to redundantly support external data sources in a dual screen setup if one screen dies?


Will the serial interfaces for externals be on the screens or in a separate black box behind the panel?

Each screen has 3 serial ports.

What will drive the FD, HITS, ext? Are you going to be adding flight planning, synthetic approach capability and AP sequencing features similar to some of the competition or is all of this stuff going to be driven strictly by external data sources?

The map already has basic flight planning, and it will expand. We also already have HITS for enroute courses. The plan is to do full IFR flight planning (of course, you'll need a certified GPS source like a 430 to actually file /G and generate guidance that can be legally followed). External data sources will be secondary goals for us, not the primary source.

Will you have a GPS option to drive the map and all the other GPS driven features?

Yes, we will have a GPS receiver/antenna available

Which of the current probes / accessories / brackets will be compatible with the next generation?

COMPATIBLE: All engine and temperature probes, AOA/Pitot probes, Autopilot servos, encoder converter module

NOT COMPATIBLE: EDC-D10A remote magnetometer, mounting brackets and trays, expansion modules (HS34, AP74, possibly AP76 - see below for details)

Engine harness pinouts are expected to remain the same, but primary wiring pinouts are likely to change.

What if someone wants the new system plus a D10A? Or, you have a D180 and want to display engine info on the new screen?

The EFIS-D100, EMS-D120, FlightDEK-D180, EFIS-D10A, and EMS-D10 will all still be for sale for the foreseeable future. We are not canceling any of our current products. Over time, the D100, D120, and D180 will likely phase out in favor of the next generation system equivalents, which will have all of the same capabilities and much more.

All of our products will be supported for years - with repairs, technical support, and any bug fixes that are needed. There is no way that Dynon would ever stop supporting a past customer. We think one of the reasons we've been successful is that we've tried our best to support all of our customers, and that will continue to be the case. Call us with a question or a repair on a EFIS-D10, a product we haven't sold for over 4 years, and we'll still help with any question or problem you may have.

That being said, we are going to be winding down new feature development on the current series of products after the autopilot is released. After four years, we're reaching the limits of what we're able to do with the computing power in the current products. The major features that our customers have been asking for - such as synthetic vision, moving map, thin screens, etc - are not features that we can implement on our current hardware.

We've also learned a lot with the last generation of products, and to remain competitive we need to take all of that knowledge and translate it into the best avionics we can possibly build. To do this effectively and efficiently, we have we have to draw some lines between what we have now and what we'll be building next. For example, making DSAB work between the current and new products would be a huge software effort. If we put our limited resources there, development all of our products would slow down, and we're already a busy bunch over here.

We believe there's an easier way to cross the compatibility border, and that's the offer for trade-in credit on old units. If you are interested in the new system, then we'll take what you have and give you credit towards the next system. It's win-win: you get the new system, a new warranty, and we get to focus on our new product development.

We think that this trade-in program is a type of support that is uncommon in fast-moving technology (will Apple give you credit for your 2 year old iPod, or Dell for your old laptop?), but we want to do it anyway. We really do appreciate all of your business, and we want you to continue to grow with us. What's better than being sure that your past financial investment will continue to be an investment in the latest products from Dynon?

Will the Moving Map/GPS functionality be an add-on to existing Dynon systems with the addition of a next generation screen and the corresponding module?

Unfortunately, the D10A/D100 series does not have the computing horsepower required to be able to offer a map, nor the user interface that we think is required (the next generation has a joystick to pan around the map). As mentioned above, feature development on our current generation or products will wind down as we concentrate our resources on our next generation of avionics.

For those of us with existing engine monitors from Dynon, will the new generation products be backwards compatible with the connector and sensors?

The current EMS harness and sensors will plug right in.

How about an interface with satellite WX receivers?

We will have weather at some point, but we can't promise compatibility with a specific device yet.

Where will the pitot/static lines connect and how big is the ADAHRS?

The pitot/static lines will go to the ADAHRS box. It's not much bigger than the current EDC.

One of the things that attracted me to the existing Dynon product line is that Dynon has its own dedicated RTOS-like software stack. Some other vendors use commercial OSes like WinCE which makes be a bit uncomfortable. What is general architecture of the new software platform?

The new system will run a stabilized, minimal Linux kernel for the display. The remote boxes like the AHRS, EMS, servos, etc still run with no OS, and the screen is managed by a no-OS micro.

I have a D100 and a D180 (two ADAHRS) with an HS34 module and AP servos that I plan to keep. Not knowing the details of your design, will I be able to just add a NG screen and your GPS receiver to incorporate the moving map functions and complement my existing instruments, or will I have to also add a third ADAHRS with the NG hardware to incorporate the moving map functions?

Will the next generation AHRS be less dependent on pitot aiding than the current versions?